They were married in 1984 and built their life and family in Metro Detroit. Bob worked for 17 years in the automotive and robotics industry as a machine designer, while Lisa worked in marketing and communications for two Detroit area firms. While their careers were fulfilling, God revealed to them in 1995 that they could best serve Him as Salvation Army Officers.
With their three children, they entered the College for Officer Training from the Plymouth, MI Corps. Their first appointment was the Minneapolis (Citadel), MN Corps. After five years, they became Division Youth & Candidates Secretaries for the Northern Division for four years.
After five years at the St. Paul (Citadel), MN Corps, they served for three years in Western Michigan Northern Indiana Division as Divisional Secretary/Kent County Coordinator (Bob) and Divisional Secretary for Program (Lisa).